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Polaris
Venture Partners
1000 Winter Street
Suite 3350
Waltham, MA 02451-1215
Phone: 781-290-0770
Fax: 781-290-0880
Company Overview
High on a hill overlooking the Cambridge reservoir,
Polaris Venture Partners is well positioned to survey the entrepreneurial
landscape literally embodied in the Rte. 128 technology corridor below.
The stylishly spare offices appointed with blonde woods, frosted glass,
and supple, black leather furniture are occupied, somewhat incongruously,
by casually dressed professionals in jeans and button-down shirts. It's
worth noting, however, that the entrepreneurs making pitches on the day
of my visit were not quite as relaxed. In a sleek reception area, a trophy
case of sorts holds products and momentos from Polaris' portfolio companies,
including a boxed set of the multi-volume History of the Icelandic
People (deCode genetics) and the highly successful Cold Fusion web
server software package from the Allaire corporation.
Polaris Venture Partners was founded in 1996 by Steve Arnold, John Flint,
and Terry McGuire, experienced venture capitalists who had previously
worked together at the venture firm, Burr, Egan, Deleage & Co. Polaris
has since grown to eleven professionals and has offices in the technology
hotbeds surrounding Boston, Seattle, and Austin. Despite having been formed
at a time when most VC firms were pruning back their biomedical investments
to focus on internet-related ventures, Polaris has maintained a strong
commitment to investing in the life sciences. One the founding partners,
Terry McGuire, has championed much of the effort on the life sciences
side. Currently, about one third of the assets under management are invested
in biomedical companies and two thirds are targeted to the IT space.
To date, Polaris has raised three funds beginning with Polaris I ($80M)
in 1996. Polaris II ($180M) was subsequently raised in 1998 and, in January
2000, the mammoth Polaris III fund was closed at $800M.
Below is a summary of Polaris' current structure,
personnel, and investment portfolio. The interested reader can obtain
more detailed information from the company's website at www.polarisventures.com.
| Offices
and Management |
| 1000
Winter Street
Suite 3350
Waltham, MA 02451-1215
Phone: 781-290-0770
Fax: 781-290-0880 |
Bank
of America Tower
701 Fifth Avenue, Suite 6850
Seattle, WA 98104
Phone: 206-652-4555
Fax: 206-652-4666 |
804
Las Cimas Parkway
Building One, Suite 140
Austin, TX 78746
Phone: 512-225-5400
Fax: 512-225-5444 |
| Jonathan
A. Flint
General Partner |
Stephen
D. Arnold
General Partner |
Thomas
A. Herring
General Partner |
| Terrance
G. McGuire
General Partner |
Brian
Chee
General Partner |
Zach
Thompson
Associate |
| John
Gannon
Chief Financial Officer, Partner |
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| George
H. Conrades
Venture Partner |
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| James
Earl Brown III
General Partner |
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| Michael
Hirshland
General Partner |
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| Alan
Spoon
General Partner |
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| Industry
Advisory Group |
| Dennis
A. Ausiello, MD |
Physician-in-Chief,
Medical Services, and Chief, Renal Unit, Massachusetts General
Hospital; Jackson Professor of Clinical Medicine, Harvard Medical
School |
| Vaughn
D. Bryson |
Former
Vice Chairman, Vector Securities; former President and Chief Executive
Officer, Eli Lilly & Co. |
| Douglas
G. Carlston |
Founder
and Chairman of the Board, Brøderbund Software, Inc. |
| S.
David Ellenbogen |
President
and co-founder,
Hologic Inc. |
| Peter
Barton Hutt |
Partner,
Covington & Burling;
former Chief Counsel, United States Food and Drug Administration |
| Mitchell
E. Kertzman |
President
and CEO,
Liberate Technologies |
| Robert
S. Langer, Sc.D |
Kenneth
Germeshausen Professor of Chemical and Biomedical Engineering,
MIT;
member, National Academy of Sciences, National Institute of Medicine,
and National Academy of Engineering; member, Science Board, Food
& Drug Administration |
| BioMedical
Portfolio Companies - All Funds |
| Accordant
Health Services, Inc.
Management of complex, chronic diseases |
September,
1996 |
| Acusphere,
Inc.
Contrast agents for medical imaging |
June,
1996 |
| Advanced
Inhalation Research
Drug delivery to the deep lung |
August,
1997
Acquired by Alkermes: February, 1999 |
| Aspect
Medical Systems, Inc.
Anesthesia monitoring systems |
February,
1997
IPO: January, 200 |
| Best
Doctors, Inc.
Information about/Access to high quality medical care |
June,
1999 |
| Circe
Biomedical, Inc.
Bioartificial organ replacement |
March,
1999 |
| deCODE
genetics, Inc.
Discovery and management of genetic diseases |
August,
1996 |
| Endius
Corporation
Steerable endoscopic instruments |
December,
1997 |
| eNOS
Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
Therapies for stroke and other CNS diseases |
May,
1999 |
| Microbia,
Inc.
Fungal products for medicine |
December,
1998 |
| MicroCHIPS
Implantable drug delivery system on a chip |
March,
1999 |
| mNemoscience
GmbH
Medical products incorporating advanced materials |
September,
1998 |
| Optobionics
Corporation
Implantable artificial vision systems |
June,
1997 |
| Paradigm
Genetics, Inc.
Agricultural genomics |
June,
1998 |
| Sentillion,
Inc.
Software to improve clinical team efficiency |
March,
1999 |
Executive Interview
Terry McGuire is an easy man to like- this is
someone that spent a year in Ireland, learning the art of storytelling.
He's also a savvy investor with a demonstrated ability to generate internet-level
returns on a biomedical portfolio. I had the opportunity to sit down with
McGuire at Polaris' Waltham offices and speak with him about the partnership,
its culture and practices, and the state of the venture capital industry.
He describes the benefits of being a generalist and the value of Polaris'
network of advisors and portfolio companies for alerting the firm to promising
business plans and for evaluating new technologies. Through the lens of
past investments, McGuire explains the qualities he looks for in budding
entrepreneurs and the type of relationship he endeavors to build with
them. The interview concludes with McGuire's optimistic forecast for the
future of the biotech industry.
CV Summary
Name: Terrance G. McGuire
Title: Co-founder and General Partner
Age:
Background: McGuire studied physics and economics at Hobart College.
As a Watson Fellow, he then spent a year in county Donegal, Ireland, learning
the art of storytelling. McGuire returned to the States to earn an MS
in software engineering from Dartmouth and subsequently went to work at
a software start-up linked to MIT and its Sloan School. He completed his
formal education with an MBA from the Harvard Business School.
After HBS, McGuire took a position at Golder, Thoma and Cressey, a buy-out
firm in Chicago, and later moved back to Boston to join Burr, Eagen, Deleage
& Co, an early stage, medical and IT venture firm. In 1996, McGuire,
Steve Arnold and John Flint formed Polaris Venture Partners and raised
Polaris I, an $80M fund.
McGuire is the vice-chairman of deCode Genetics and sits on the Boards
of Directors of Accordant Health Services, Acusphere, Akamai, Aspect Medical,
CBS/StoreRunner.com, Microbia, mNemoscience Corporation, Paradigm Genetics,
and Wrenchead.com. He is a founder of Advanced Inhalation Research and
MicroCHIPS. McGuire is the first and only venture capitalist to be elected
to the Boards of Directors at both the Massachusetts Biotechnology Council
(the organization of Massachusetts biotech and pharmaceutical companies)
and MassMedic (the organization of Massachusetts medical device manufacturers).
Interview
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Getting Started...
CR: Thanks for taking the time to meet
with me. Can you talk a little bit about your background and how you broke
into the venture capital industry?
TM: Well, I did undergraduate work in physics and economics at
a small school called Hobart College in upstate NY. I then went to live
in Ireland for a year as a Watson Fellow. Watson fellowships- Thomas Watson
started IBM- essentially allowed people to do whatever they wanted to
do so long as they left the country and didn't spend the fellowship on
tuition. So I went to the west coast of Ireland to the pocket where Gaelic
is still spoken and learned story telling, which is very relevant to venture
capital (laughs). And then I came back and did an engineering degree at
Dartmouth and focused on software. Then, I went to work for a software
start-up that was spinning out of MIT and the Sloan School, which, for
the first 18 months, was wonderfully successful and then, for the next
18 months, had a rough road and was then acquired.
I decided to go back to business school because I saw venture capitalists
coming and talking to this company and I thought, "Hey that's the
side of the table I want to sit on." So I went back to the HBS and
after the HBS, went to join Golder, Thoma and Cressey, which is a venture
capital firm in Chicago. GTC, at the time, was shifting from being a classic,
early stage venture investor to more of a buy-out firm. In fact, GTC was
really the innovator in the area of industry roll-ups. I worked there
for a couple of years and then had an opportunity to come back to Boston
to join an affiliate of Burr, Egan, Deleage, which was an early stage,
medical and IT venture firm.
In 1996, two partners and I created Polaris, which was an 80 million dollar
fund. In 1998, we raised Polaris II, which was a 180 million dollar fund,
and in January of this year, we closed Polaris III, which is an 800 million
dollar fund.
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Moving Into Biotech...
CR: Yes, I've seen those startling numbers.
TM: Yeah, they have moved up (laughs). Now, as to how I got into
the medical area: Burr, Egan had a strong practice in the medical area,
starting with John Deleage's investment in Genentech way, way, way back
when. The firm had a strong reputation for being an early venture investor
in Chiron and companies like that. But in 1993, there really wasn't anyone
in the Boston office that was following medical so, even though I really
describe myself as a generalist, I picked up the medical space and pursued
it, and have been doing it ever since.
CR: Was it a hard transition to make from
IT?
TM: Polaris is a fund that is focused on both IT and medical, but
what is striking about the partners at Polaris is that we're generalists.
And you know, of course, a generalist is a jack of all trades, master
of none. The venture business, however, changes so quickly that, in fact,
being generalists can be an advantage. I always use the analogy that if
we had 10 endocrinologists as partners, we'd only do diabetes deals. Whether
they were interesting deals or not, we'd only do diabetes deals because
that's what we knew.
Being generalists allows us to adapt quickly; what it also means, though,
is that we have to recognize what we don't know. So, we've surrounded
ourselves with some great industry advisors. On the medical side they
include: Dennis Ausiello, chief of medicine at MGH; Bob Langer, who holds
more medical patents than anyone in history- and, in fact, we've started
five companies with Bob; Peter Hutt, who was the chief counsel at the
FDA; David Ellenbogen, threepeat successful entrepreneur [Hologic, Inc.,
Vivid Technologies]; and Rich Pops, CEO of Alkermes, which is an enormously
successful drug delivery company.
And so, when I don't know something, I get in touch with those guys or
any of our portfolio companies, to learn whether it's an important technology
or not.
CR: It was interesting to hear some of
the people you listed as Polaris advisors. I want to get into this a little
bit later, but I'd like to talk about Advanced Inhalation Research (AIR)
and Bob Langer. You also mentioned the CEO of Alkermes, Rich Pops [Alkermes
recently bought AIR for $120 million]. That's kind of interesting.
TM: Yeah, although I should make the sequence clear. Bob, David
Edwards, and I founded AIR. Previously Bob had been involved with a company
called Enzytech which Alkermes acquired some years before. Bob was also
on the board of Alkermes. When AIR looked like it was going to be a great
success, Bob introduced the AIR idea to Rich Pops. I didn't know Rich
prior to this. I then negotiated the deal with Rich to sell AIR to Alkermes
and got to know Rich that way. Polaris ended up being a fairly large shareholder
of Alkermes, as did Bob, as did David Edwards.
I was enormously impressed by Rich, who clearly understood not only the
technical aspects, but also the financial aspects- the financial market
aspects- of what he was doing. He's had a great tenure at Alkermes. It
certainly is enjoying a great run-up, as many companies are, but I think
well deserved in the case of Alkermes because it's just a great company.
So, that was how we actually got Rich involved. Bob and I had seeded another
company called Acusphere, which Bob was the founder of, and that's how
I got to know Bob.
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Polaris 101...
CR: So, you've discussed a little bit about
your background. Now, I'd like to talk some more about Polaris and what
makes it different from its competitors. But first, I'd like to know how
Polaris conducts its due diligence work- when you really roll up your
sleeves and evaluate a new technology. Being generalists, I assume that
might be a little difficult?
TM: Yes, we are generalists, but knowing the specific structure
of certain proteins isn't going to be important to whether a business
is successful or not- or knowing the finer points of PCR- there is technology
and then there's technology. So, what we try to assess is the broad application
of the technology; that's where we're focused. And also on the ability
to defend and expand the technology.
When we were raising Polaris III, we were pitching that we were just at
the beginning of another industrial revolution based on genomics and,
it's interesting, we were talking about this before the recent run-up
in genomics stocks. But, we knew what the technology was and the potential
of the technology. We knew that the technology could be expandable, but
also knew that there was a fundamental platform. And although we didn't
know the fine points of the specific technology: about how one does sequencing
or gene therapy or retroviral vectors- you know, I couldn't build a retroviral
vector to save my life. But, I did know enough about the technology to
know where its applications were and how the market might receive it.
Once we make an assessment about a [business] plan, we try to reach one
of our advisors or portfolio companies who might have special knowledge
about the technology. If it's a genomics company, we'll get clearance
from the company to call our friends in Iceland [deCode genetics] and
have them look at it, or call the guys at Paradigm, which is an agricultural
genomics company. If it's a medical technology company, I'll give Nassib
[Chamoun] over at Aspect [Aspect Medical Systems] a call. Or, I'll give
Rich [Pops] a call. And so, we're continually contacting our network to
get an honest evaluation of the potential. It's a combination of technology,
product, and market analysis and they're all done at the same time.
CR: Do you also have intellectual property
people that you employ to evaluate patent positions?
TM: We do. When we think a technical area is particularly crowded,
we will definitely do an extensive analysis. We'll either retain a firm,
or we'll certainly make some additional calls to see if people say, "No,
to my knowledge, there's really nothing around like this."
CR: How does a decision to invest get made?
Do all the partners have to agree?
TM: We do. It's consensus decision making. This is a partnership
based on trust. With each investment, one of our partners will champion
a deal. They'll lead the due diligence process. They'll present the deal
to the partnership. A number of the partners will meet the team. And then
the partnership will essentially assess the company along a number of
different dimensions and then we'll finally conclude whether we think
it's a good investment or not. We actually don't vote- you can see at
the meeting whether a deal is going to carry or not.
What it means is that our IT guys have to understand the medical space
and vice versa. As an example, not only do I sit on the boards of 6 or
7 medical companies, but I also sit on the boards of 3 IT companies. Steve
Arnold, one of the founding partners, sits on the board of a medical company.
Jon [Flint] doesn't sit on a medical board, although Jon had been quite
successful at investing in medical companies while we were at Burr, Egan,
Dealeage. So, we try to do enough cross-fertilization within the partnership
so that we don't just have separate groups.
We're one of the few VC firms left in these two areas; a lot of others
have become very specialized. We think that cross-fertilization of business
models is important. One of the reasons why I think we've had a very successful
medical portfolio is because I've been able to watch the IT guys. I've
watched how their world has been changing and have found ways to apply
their lessons to the medical space. So, as a result, we've been pretty
successful in medical investing.
CR: When you're evaluating a potential
investment, how do you put a dollar value on a start-up?
TM: The valuations aren't based on one moment in time. The way
we look at valuations is to look at the numerous capital-raising rounds
that the company will require to get to product launch and product profitability.
You would expect to provide a price step up in each round. If you actually
work backwards, it almost comes out in a very natural sequence as to what
the valuation should be at the beginning. It is also determined by your
assessment of the ultimate exit value.
Now, one of the reasons why the IT valuations have grown is because it's
quite common these days that an IT company will go public at greater than
a billion dollar market cap. In the case of Akamai [a Polaris portfolio
company], it was greater than a 10 billion dollar market cap. The medical
space hasn't gotten there yet. Aspect is out trading and it's doing well
and you're seeing some of the genomics companies with a billion plus in
market cap. But, if you back up and say, "I think, at the end of
the day, in 4 years, 5 years, 7 years, we can sell this company for X
and we're going to need Y millions of dollars along the way," then
you can almost build the valuation that you need to start at.
The valuation has to be attractive enough so that the investors get a
reasonable return but we've never been a fan of thinking that the investors
should get too much of the company. There's not enough in it for the management
team. There's a delicate balance that you ultimately look at- and you
must look at it over the full life of a venture- that brings you back
to a good valuation.
CR: When you bring in new companies, do
you look to complement the existing portfolio? Do you look for synergies
between your portfolio companies? I know that in at least one case, two
of them have merged.
TM: Right.
CR: Is that something you look for or encourage?
Are there interactions between the portfolio companies?
TM: On one hand, we try to maintain the diversity. It would be
crazy to be all genomics, even though genomics is an important part of
it, or all med tech, etc. We begin by looking at the diversity in the
portfolio. We are also sensitive to concentration because it can create
conflicts. Some of our west coast brethren have the idea that if you like
an area, start five companies in it, knowing full well that only one of
them will succeed. And, if that one goes through the roof, you've done
a good job. But you have to ask yourself the questions: "How do the
other four entrepreneurs feel, when they can see their backer growing
fonder and fonder of one of the other siblings? How do you feel about
that?" That may be smart from a financing perspective but that's
just not our style.
Our style is to get into very close partnerships with our entrepreneurs.
On more than one occasion, that's meant that a deal has come to me and
I've called an entrepreneur and said, within a paragraph, "This is
what we're thinking. This is the company's project to do X, Y, and Z.
Do you think it's a conflict?" And if they say, "Boy, that's
a direct conflict," then I'm likely to pass. More often than not,
they're much more reasonable than that.
We try to build a portfolio that's diversified. We really don't try to
build a portfolio where two companies will ultimately combine. The more
you get into one area, however, the more likely you are to find other
deals in that area. We certainly encourage portfolio companies to work
together.
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Working with Portfolio Companies...
CR: OK, I'd like to jump now to discussing
two of your portfolio companies, starting with Advanced Inhalation Research.
This venture was interesting to me because, first, it was a company that
went through your incubator. It's a little hard for me to imagine a role
for that kind of a service for a life science company because I'd imagine
that you'd need a lot of equipment and infrastructure. So, that's one
question: what's the role of the incubator? Second, I'm curious how AIR
came together and how you came to be the CEO? And, was the plan to develop
the technology and then sell it?
TM: We have a philosophy which says that we don't look to a specific
exit scenario as a major factor in determining whether we want to invest
in a company or not. We believe that if we build a company that is based
on sound technology, that will create value-added products, and that can,
ultimately, get to a business model that will lead them to positive cash
flow, that there will be a number of options available: whether it is
sale or public offering. And so, when we started AIR, we didn't say to
ourselves, "Oh geez, its going to be a really great acquisition target."
Because, in fact, I believe that if AIR were a stand-alone company, it
might be a great public vehicle. I'm delighted that it ended up the way
it did. I'm really happy to be an Alkermes shareholder.
Now, how did the company get together? Bob Langer who I've worked with
on a number of companies, called me one day and said, "Hey, I'm working
with a guy who's now at Penn State, Dave Edwards, who came out of my lab
and he's doing some really interesting stuff with pulmonary drug delivery.
Let's talk about it and see if we can do something here." I said
great. I have enormous regard for Bob. I snooped around a little bit and
initially I was sort of blasé. I looked around and saw there were a number
of other pulmonary drug delivery companies: Inhale, Dura, Glaxo-Wellcome
had its own program, etc. But, the more I looked at it, the more interested
I became. Bob and David and I thought about a financing structure where
we could seed the deal. In fact, we only put in a quarter of a million
dollars on day one. We quickly got corporate interest and off we went.
Incubators often imply a physical space. That's not necessarily true.
There are many things we can do to support a company without just providing
space. For example, initially, we did the back-office work for AIR. All
of the administration was done out of Polaris. David had set up a lab
at Penn State and I acted as the interim CEO in the early days. David
then chose to leave Penn State and come to Boston to set up shop. With
that, he became the core management figure. David was the president and
CEO of AIR when we sold to Alkermes.
[AIR] had labs in Cambridge. We had just announced that we had negotiated
a couple of deals with both Lilly and Glaxo-Wellcome. I led those negotiations.
I was the principal business development person for AIR. The company was
growing nicely when Rich Pops approached us to inquire about a merger.
AIR would allow Alkermes to expand its drug delivery platform in some
unique ways and get exposed to some of the deals we had negotiated. Alkermes
acquired AIR for what, at the time, had seemed like a high price- 120
million dollars. In March Alkermes announced two of the deals we
negotiated.
CR: Did you enjoy the role of CEO?
TM: The most enjoyable dimension in the venture business is the
intimate partnership that you form with the entrepreneur. I was complimented
the other day when, at 10 O'clock in the evening, I got a call from Kari
Stefansson, CEO of deCODE Genetics in Iceland. Now, it's 3 O'clock in
the morning in Iceland- there was something on his mind and he wanted
to talk and I was the guy he thought of. He didn't think anything about
calling me. It's that kind of relationship that is the most pleasurable
part of what we do.
It means being a good partner. That doesn't mean always agreeing with
everything they say. It's being honest. It's this candor that creates
good partnerships.
And usually, if there's a trust relationship that's created, egos don't
get in the way. Because they know fundamentally- I really want them to
be successful. I don't want to be critical; I want them to be successful.
And so, to me, the thrill is when you get to build these relationships.
These trust relationships are best built at the beginning of a company's
life.
CR: Its nice to hear that kind of philosophy.
From talking with friends and other people at the Longwood Medical Area
who are thinking about starting companies, I know that they're approaching
venture capitalists with a mixture of fear and awe. They're dreading how
much they're going to lose; that they're going to be bled dry.
TM: Right, that they're going to be beat up at every board meeting...
CR: So, is Polaris distinct in this respect
or is this just a common misconception about the VC community?
TM: Well, the promotional answer is that of course we're distinct
(laughs). The real answer is that I can't answer that question for you.
I think the only way to answer that question is to talk to people that
we've worked with and who've worked with other venture capitalists. I
would encourage you to call Bob Langer. He's worked with a lot of different
firms and he can talk a little about how our style is different from other
firms. The only thing I can tell you is that Bob continually wants to
work with me on deals and I think it's because he has been able to develop
a trust relationship with me and with Polaris. He knows that, at the end
of the day, we're going to do the right thing for him. And, by the way,
I know he's going to do the right thing for me. So, do other people get
to that level? I'm sure some people do. But, some venture capitalists
believe in the golden rule, which is that gold rules. We don't work like
that.
CR: Great. The second company I wanted
to discuss is Microbia. I saw these guys speak at Harvard Medical School
and was so impressed because they were just four post-docs with a dream.
So, the question there is that they had no business experience and yet
one of them is actually running the company as the CEO.
TM: Yeah, he's doing a wonderful job.
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On People...
CR: So, you're willing to give an inexperienced
person a shot? I know they had some board members with pedigrees. That
was a major factor, I assume?
TM: Let me tell you why Peter [Hecht] is such an effective CEO
and why it's been a pleasure to back him and why he will be successful.
But let me put it in perspective. David Edwards (AIR) was an associate
professor at Penn State and Kari Stefansson (deCode genetics) was the
chief of neuropathology at the Beth Israel, so we're not afraid
to back people who don't have a business pedigree. But by the time Peter
had found his way to Polaris, he had raised money from very sophisticated
angels. He had recruited a board that included Joe Cook as the chairman
and Barry Bloom, who was a director and vice president for central research
at Pfizer. Joe was an EVP at [Eli] Lilly and now is the CEO of Amylin
and Joe, by the way, is also an investor in Polaris.
Joe called me and said, "You've got to meet Peter. He's a very impressive
guy." And then I met Peter and Todd [Milne] and Eric [Summers] and
Brian [Cali] and they were, across the board, impressive. Peter was the
first guy to stand up and say, "I think I can do the job. But, if
I don't do the job please be the first guy to tell me. Because I want
to be successful, I want this company to be successful even if I'm the
CEO from day one to day thirty and then we hire another CEO on top of
me. If we need that, I'm happy to do it because I will have been a founder
of a successful company. And the next time I start a company, I'll take
it from day one to year thirty." There was this candor and honesty
about what he knew and what he didn't know that was remarkable.
I think he's just done a spectacular job. He's continually defining new
strategies, looking for licenses to additional technology. This is a guy
who gave us a budget and a year and a half later he's off it by, maybe,
0.003%. He has done everything he said he was going to do. I can't imagine
why you wouldn't let a guy keep going if he's doing everything he says
he is going to do. And even though he didn't come out of Merck or Pfizer,
the fact of the matter is that we've backed people who have had great
pedigrees but have never been in start-ups and they don't always do well.
Some do well but others don't because they're used to a large corporate
structure.
CR: OK, but if the same Peter Hecht had
come to you without Joe Cook, would you still have gone with him? Do you
need someone there, in the end, who really has experience?
TM: As venture capitalists- and, fortunately, with the success
of Polaris- we see thousands, tens of thousands of [business] plans. And
I know its frustrating for people- often times they send their plans to
a venture capitalist and it falls into a black hole. The simple fact of
the matter is that of those plans, we pay the most attention to those
that come through someone we know and trust.
If Bob Langer calls or Dennis Ausiello calls or Peter Hutt calls and says,
"This is a company you've really got to spend some time with,"
we spend some time with them. Not because we're just doing Bob or Dennis
or Peter a favor, but because they've developed a filter, themselves.
They see lots of plans and they don't call us on each. So, if Joe Cook
had called and said, "I'm busy at Amylin (which he is), but this
is a good company. I'm going to put a little of my own money in."
Would I have met with Peter? Yeah.
But one of Peter's distinguishing characteristics is that he was able
to recruit Joe to become chairman and he was able to recruit Barry to
become a director. I sat on the Cubist [Pharmaceuticals] board with Barry
and I have just enormous regard for him. Let's face it, part of being
a CEO of a start-up company is selling. Selling because you have an idea
and you're going to try to convince people with enormous capabilities
that they should spend time helping you out. So, would I have looked at
it? Yeah. Did it help that Joe not only said that he was going to invest
in the company but that he was going to be chairman of the board? Yeah,
that certainly helped me to say, "Boy, Joe spent the time, Barry
spent the time, Gerry Fink spent the time, Jim Gaither [a corporate attorney
at Cooley Godward] spent the time...You know, this thing has legs to it."
And so far, it really does.
CR: OK, I see your point that one of the
roles of the CEO is to recruit the right people before approaching VCs.
TM: Yeah. Or, the CEO has a demonstrated ability to do that. I'll
give you a couple of examples. We met with Stig Leschly who was a Harvard
MBA/JD. If you simply looked at his background, there was nothing in his
background that said that he'd be a great entrepreneur. But he was quite
passionate about the idea that you could take vertical markets like rare
books or music or coins or stamps and that you could create little eBays,
essentially, but with a lot more information than eBay would have. When
we backed Exchange [Exchange.com] it was as much because we believed Stig
had the ability to run a company and also had the ability to recruit good
talent; which is what he did. And then seven months later, we sold it
Amazon for 200 million dollars. It was an enormous win for us and it was
an enormous win for Stig.
Now, we have another example of a woman named Jennifer Floren, who doesn't
have an advanced degree- she's a Dartmouth undergrad. But she started
up her own business in education and recruiting content [Ivy Productions]-
that's probably the one you referenced earlier because that merged with
Crimson, those were our two portfolio companies that merged. But, you
know, as far as we're all concerned, this woman is an incredible winner.
She knows how to recruit, she's been able to recruit great talent, she
has a vision and she can sell her vision.
So if I look at Peter the same way: he knew what he wanted to do, he knew
what he didn't know, and he knew how to sell it. He also knew how to create
an infrastructure, a technical infrastructure, which he is delivering.
So you've got to pull all that together and I'd rather have that then
some person who has a great pedigree but who doesn't have vision, or can't
sell it.
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VC: What it Takes...
CR: Ok, I'd like to switch to addressing
more directly the concerns of our members who are interested in VC as
a career. And most of our members are grad students: Ph.D.'s or M.D.'s.
What qualities besides raw intelligence and a great memory for names,
which you obviously have, are important for being a good VC?
TM: I think it's the memory for names that's most important (laughs).
CR: What would you recommend as a path
into venture capital?
TM: That really is the most important but also most frequently
asked and hardest to answer question. Any way into the industry is a good
way into the industry. There are more jobs now in venture capital then
there were fifteen years ago, when I started. But, I think just getting
around start-ups is a good place to start. Some people think that getting
into an operating role is a great way to get into venture capital. I don't
think that's true but it's better than having no new venture experience.
When I graduated from HBS, there were 800 people in my class. There were
also 800 people in the venture capital club, which I was the president
of that year, and eight of us got jobs in venture. It was a really small
number and a lot of people gave up really early on because it looked like
it was mission impossible. And I could have told you the ones that were
going to get jobs in venture because they simply kept at it; they uncovered
every rock. Of course, that's the exact same thing you do as a venture
capitalist; you're always looking for the new, best deal and you have
to find ways to expose them. So, there is no set way to get into venture
capital. It's developing contacts that you know who can, in turn, reference
you to someone who's in the venture business and say, "Hey, take
a look at so-and-so." You've got to look at the timing of the funds,
when they've raised certain funds. Everyone wants to be in a partnership,
but you have to consider alternatives like, corporate venture arms. Banks
also have great venture programs and that's a way to get in. So, one has
to explore all those options and then find the one that's the best at
the moment. But definitely get in when you can get in because any way
in is good. How's that for a non-answer?
CR: Not bad (laughs). I've read a bit about
the Kauffman Fellows program [an internship for experienced business people
that want to get into VC]. Is that something that's working well?
TM: Yeah, I think its working really well. A significant number
of Kauffman fellows end up staying in the business. In fact, a really
significant number stay with the firms that they join as Kaufmann fellows
because the venture business is a sort personal relationship business.
It's crazy, for example, for Polaris to take on a Kauffman fellow and
not to assume that they're going to stay on for a long time, partly because
there's no reason for us to train a competitor. So, I think that Kauffman
fellows is a great program. The Kauffman Foundation is also a really well
run organization. If someone can get a Kauffman fellowship, I would encourage
them to do that.
CR: Has Polaris taken on a fellow?
TM: No, we haven't. We went one year, a couple of years ago. I
think the conclusion we came to was that there were a lot of great candidates
there, but all of us went- we were only four people at the time- and we
view the recruiting process, as inviting someone to join the firm forever,
so we had this incredibly high standard. There were a lot of great candidates
there but no one that really fit the specific slot that we were trying
to fill. But, I think it's an excellent program.
(*author's note: The Kauffman Fellows program has
since been discontinued. For more information, please see www.kauffmanfellows.org)
CR: Does Polaris employ interns for the short term?
TM: We don't. I think we took someone for a summer once. When someone's
here for ten weeks it's a little hard to find something for them to do.
I remember that, for my first six months in the venture business, I didn't
do anything; at least I felt like I didn't do anything. It's because you're
not close enough to anyone in the companies or anyone's projects. So,
it turns out to be harder to make it a fulfilling experience. The money
isn't the important issue but you don't want someone to come in, that
you're going to spend a lot of time with, just to have them walk out the
door ten weeks later.
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Looking Ahead...
CR: Ok, last question: the future? Within
the VC community, are the life sciences going to start getting...
TM: More respect? (laughs)
CR: Yes (laughs).
TM: I think they will. I think there's an industrial revolution
taking place in life sciences, as there was one in IT starting in the
'50's. Now, all the advances, whether they be in genomics or tissue engineering,
drug delivery or molecular biology are going to cause a revolution that's
really going to be implemented over our lifetimes. And, that's going to
create huge opportunities for venture capitalists. I think we will continue
to see new innovation, the technology is unrelenting and those of us that
invest in that space will take advantage of it.
Do I think it'll get like IT? No, I think one of the things about IT is
that it's easier to understand- eToys, yeah Ok, I get it! You can't say
the same thing about proteomics. Public investors need a level of sophistication
to understand what's going on there. So, I don't think it'll ever be quite
as wild in the venture business as it's been on the IT side. But those
of us who choose to stay in this space will do well. In fact, some of
us have done really well. We've generated internet-level returns from
our medical portfolio, and plan to invest in this space for a long time
to come.
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About the Author
Carlo Rizzuto is a post-doctoral fellow in the Department of Neurobiology
at Harvard Medical School and a director of the GSAS Harvard Biotechnology
Club. In his "free time," he plays a decent game of rollerhockey
and enjoys growing prize-winning vegetables in his community garden plot.
Carlo lives in Cambridge with his wife, Rita, and their cat, Sweetie.
He didn't name the cat. Carlo can be reached at: carlo@thebiotechclub.org
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